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Ramshead Rathskeller Returns from the Dead!

by Charly Mann

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Lucy      3:47 PM Tue 11/16/2010

PLEASE.... bring back the cheese-laden lasagna, spaghetti, burgers, salad and HUGE basket of garlic bread!! Yes, the Thousand Island was great even though the salad was pretty much chopped iceberg. I loved the booths & dark dungeon-like 'holes' to sit and the music was good too.

I do want the RAT to re-open. I just hope the old atmosphere will be close to the original.
 

Nicole      2:13 PM Tue 10/19/2010

Can't wait for The Rat to reopen. I was so sad to find it closed when I visited Franklin Street two years ago. I will definitely be there on opening day!
 

DIANE FOUNTAIN      1:04 PM Tue 10/5/2010

You wonderful people have no idea how much this means to hear such encouraging words. I am going to re-open the Rat just like the original days, with a little kicking up...new kitchen, big screens, same menu plus a few added goodies..even want to bring back some of the old staff if I can find them! Any help would be appreciated! Your opinion and thoughts matter, as it is all about you. If you have any menues, recipies, or more, please let me know. Thanks for your encouragement, and I am counting on your patronage!!!
Diane
 

Alan J.      5:56 PM Tue 9/28/2010

And of course the mini pitchers of Sweet Tea and the garlic bread and the sizzling Gamblers...bring it all back..and hopefully some of the waiters...
 

Alan J.      5:55 PM Tue 9/28/2010

Please please bring back the old menu...especially the Spaghetti and Lasagna...
 

Alan J.      5:53 PM Tue 9/28/2010

My friends and I are already planning a reunion trip back to CH once the Rat Reopens...we will eat there every night that weekend! I'm coming up from Florida...the Rat is timeless...
 

Debi Jacobs      7:50 AM Sun 9/5/2010

How cool is that!
I loved the RAT!
The first place I ever ate where they served a meal that made NOISE! Them skillets were hot and sizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzled...............
Can't wait to take my hubby to the place where I had LOTS of dates!!!
 

F. Cummings      4:26 PM Wed 9/1/2010

What great news. I am glad you are covering current events in Chapel Hill that relate to preserving the best in the town.
 

Trish Fields Neubert      3:13 PM Sun 8/29/2010

http://www.dailytarheel.com/index.php/article/2010/08/ramshead_rathskeller_returns
 

Dan Heath      9:02 PM Sat 8/28/2010

I understand the new owners have most of the fixtures and tables from the old RAT, so now all they have to do is duplicate the food.

I use to go to the RAT a lot in the 1960s and the clientele included a lot of local downtown merchants and their employees. I have not lived in Chapel Hill in decades, but when I visit downtown it appears to me there are just not the right mix of retail establishments on Franklin Street that would have a lot of their owners and employees eating there anymore.
 

David Brown      4:44 PM Fri 8/27/2010

Thank God the Rat is going to reopen! PLEASE tell me they're going to have the same exact menu as before, and don't go the "fancy route" like so many others. I've been dying for some ice-cold Thousand Island dressing, some manicotti with those peas on the side and some garlic bread dripping with butter.....mmmmmmmmmmmm.....can't wait!
 

Francie      10:20 AM Fri 8/27/2010

Great news!!
Hope they'll make that great pizza with GREEN olives!
I'll make it over to Chapel Hill for that
 

Kay Paterson      9:35 AM Fri 8/27/2010

While downtown businesses like The Carolina Coffee Shop, The Varsity Theater, and Julian's have reemerged with new management, they have also changed their character so much that they might as well just be renamed something else. The Rathskeller is probably our last hope that one of these institutions can come back in much the same form as before. I think it was poor management that doomed the previous RAT. If the new place is well run and they bring back the old favorites, I think it is our responsibility as a community to regularly patronize this business to ensure its long time survival.
 

Jim Baucom      8:37 AM Fri 8/27/2010

I was there August 22, 1963 when the Rat burned. My 11th birthday was the next day but we went a day early because it seems my older brother Walt had a date on the 23rd. We were in the room next to where they cooked the bread at the glass window. Heard fire extingwichers, then someone called out to evacuate. Several students broke the locked door going out from the room next to the glass window. People were leaving with pizza and beer. We had to wait a long time as Frankin was blocked with fire trucks. Dad and I went back a day or so later...Dad was offering to pay his bill. They said he was the only person to come back. No charge.

The Rat had the best mushroom and beefburger pizza with white cheeze anywhere. So glad reopened.
 

Richard Ellington      11:33 PM Thu 8/26/2010

Charly, the iced tea was good but the hard cider was ice cold and FANTASTIC!!

In the 1960s, you could take a date out to eat at the Rat and go to a movie for under $10.

- Richard

 

Neal F. Rattican      8:31 PM Thu 8/26/2010

Charly, you just made my day, man! Thanks. This is wonderful news! I think I know where they may be able to get some of the recipes for the original dishes, if the new owners don't already have them.

My understanding was that those who took over the immediate past incarnation fired all the old heads and changed most of if not all of the menu. No wonder it failed.

Thanks again. Can't wait to spread the news.
 

Trish Fields Neubert      7:32 PM Thu 8/26/2010

Yes, who has undertaken this fourth "Rat" and can I get a reservation?

(Someone told me, not too long ago, that one could order "the Gambler" at a small cafe on the main street in Pittsboro...two letters...The ? & ? Cafe

Oh, just looked it up - S & T Soda Shoppe. My mom and I just drove down to Pittsboro and had dinner there - yes, you guessed it - we ordered the Gambler)

Plus the apple cider served in frosted mugs, was it "alcoholic”? Yes, the perfect junior high "date" establishment.

Also the best place to meet up with your classmates on "snow days".
 

Dave Kistler      6:42 PM Thu 8/26/2010

Damn, Charly, I live right here and didn't know about this. Where did you get your info?

Anyway, the pic of the pizza. As I remember, the slices were rectangular in shape?

One of my favorite places to go while growing up in CH was the Rat. My favorite dish there was the Gambler. I have sorely missed the Gambler and the Rat since it’s closing. How delighted I was to discover a restaurant that had replicated the Gambler! If you happen to be in Pittsboro, stop by S&T’s Soda Shoppe, downtown. They have the Gambler just as it looked, tasted and smelled (loved that odor) at the Rat. They haven’t quite got the salad dressing down pat, but it’s pretty close. And yes, as far as I’m concerned, the Rat had the best pizza in CH.


Hope you will join us for our CHHS Reunion in September. Would like to meet you in person.

Dave

 

Jane Mitchell      6:34 PM Thu 8/26/2010

How fun is that? I used to love that place~!
 

Michael P.      6:29 PM Thu 8/26/2010

Thanks for the info.

Have enjoyed several articles especially one on Town and Campus where I was the first high school aged male to work there.

Hope you are doing well.

Mike
 

Brook Barnes Foltz      6:02 PM Thu 8/26/2010

I can't believe nobody has mentioned those hamburgers!!!! Barely cooked but really good anyway due to the Rat's magic seasoning...and who knew then that you weren't supposed to eat raw hamburger? The Rat just had that magic touch and even today I think about them when I see that someone hasn't completely cooked their hamburgers.

I had my very first date at The Rat in the third grade with the author of this article, Charly Mann himself. Thanks for the update, Charly! Keep up the good writing. We miss you.
 

richard woodell      6:00 PM Thu 8/26/2010

Best pizza ever!

It was Christmas vacation in 1962. I was home from boarding school
for the holidays, and my dad took us out to the "RAT" on a cold December
night. That was almost 48 years ago.

Never had a pizza that good since then!
 

Hal      4:31 PM Thu 8/26/2010

Maybe they'll have the roast beef sandwich...shame Danzigers isn't upstairs.
 

Ben      4:07 PM Thu 8/26/2010

Hope some of the old waiters are still around. or train the new ones to carry 10 mugs at one time.
 

Nancy Preston Cherry      3:44 PM Thu 8/26/2010

Great news! A BIG time for me and my girlfriends in jr. high was to go shopping at Town and Campus and have lunch at The Rat. Sweet tea and cheese pizza. I can taste it now!
 

Larry Howell      3:20 PM Thu 8/26/2010

What great news!! I thought it was a sin that the Rat closed because of financial mismanagement; it was one of the few remaining institutions left. Now we have the Varsity theatre reopening along with the Rat. Maybe we can also bring back the campus protests, "Jesse Helms' sandwiches", Jubilee weekend, etc. Now I can finish clogging up those arteries I started on at UNC with those god-awful good greasy gamblers. I also loved the pizza and the lasagna. Too bad I was not there with the free beer; just can't have it all can we?? GO HEELS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Larry class of 1970
 

Stephen Jenner      3:11 PM Thu 8/26/2010

I remember going to the Rat from the mid/late sixties up until I left for college. It was one of my favorite places, one of the places that I will always associate with my childhood and Chapel Hill. One memory in particular, on my 16th birthday, the waiter put a gift box in front of me. It contained a key ring, a symbol of my new found freedom. One of the many memories.
 

Jim Norwood      2:57 PM Thu 8/26/2010

Too good to be true. It will be difficult in this day and age to find the quality of staff they had and all the ingredients the Rat used. If they can get this right I promise to be a very loyal customer
 

Stephen      2:13 PM Thu 8/26/2010

Free booze? No wonder it was an early hit. ;)

I just remember going there and getting the gambler...which was the most greasy piece of meat I've ever eaten. Or the lasagna....which was essentially just piping hot cheese in a bowl with a smattering of tomato sauce. Not bad...but very different those two items. And then side items like peas (!)...with the lasagna lol.

Never had the pizza.
 

Nora      1:58 PM Thu 8/26/2010

Miraculous! Any details about who is reopening it?
 

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