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UNC - LSU Football and the Agony of Defeat

by Charly Mann

The highly regarded UNC football team kicks off their 2010 season on September 4th in Atlanta against LSU. On November 11th, 1961 I was eleven years old and sat in Kenan Stadium to witness LSU totally humiliate the Tarheel football team 30 - 0 on a very sad UNC Homecoming day.


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Charles Young UNC'70      5:44 PM Sun 1/22/2012

LSU had won the national championship in 1958, defeating Clemson 7-0 in the Sugar Bowl. Dietzel had divided that squad into the "Go Team", The "White Team" and the "Chinese (not the Chicago) Bandits".

Ron Smith      11:58 AM Sat 5/14/2011

Great memories. My first trip to Kenan Stadium. November 11, 1961 to see the Heels and LSU. I was 5. This started my lifelong passion for UNC.

R Wood      6:34 PM Sat 3/26/2011

Growing up in Chapel Hill, Kenan stadium saturdays were the best. A little known fact about UNC football: my father played on the navy pre-flight football team around 1944, his coach was Paul Bryant. Don't think he was known as Bear back then.

George Coxhead Jr      7:51 AM Wed 2/9/2011

Charlie, I too was at that game, and I remember, because I was working at the Chapel Hill Swim team concession stand, and we got in free, but had to work 2 hours before the game, halftime and 2 quarters. Then we could watch 2 quarters, I remember sitting on a hand rail near the 50 yard line entrance, and wondering how we could be getting beat this badly. I remember Mike Earey sitting across from me, and I remember seeing 30-0 on the scoreboard. What a discouraging day for Tarheel fans. glc

Chester      1:26 AM Fri 9/3/2010

Adolph,<br \>You&#39;re right about the Asian music, which is played on 4th downs and turnovers to this day. The Golden Band has a ditty for all downs but 4th down is most recognizable. <br \>Do you know the story behind the, &quot;Chinese Bandits&quot;? If you do, please forgive me.<br \>During WWII in the least known theater of war, China-Burma-India, a ruthless brigade of British-Indian and Ghurka soldiers (77th Brigade) were led by British Gen. Orde Wingate to support air drops to troops in Burma (The Hump). Wingate named his warriors after the stone spiritual guardians (griffon-like) of Burmese temples, the Chindits (I have no explicit confirmation but believe Chindits is a contraction of Chinese Bandits).<br \>The exploits of the 77th Brigade and the Chindits were written about in a comic book called, Terry and the Pirates. Terry and the Pirates comic book was an retelling of actual events on the ground for the people back home.<br \>Don&#39;t know if Dietzel&#39;s background at Army had anything to do with it but Terry and the Pirates was where he got the name.<br \>Here&#39;s to hoping no one gets hurt badly.

Dave Kistler      8:44 AM Thu 9/2/2010

Charly,<br \>Nice read, I didn&#39;t make that game.<br \><br \>However, I too was a soda salesman. I learned the areas in the stands where the big tippers sat. One time a drunk gave me $5.00 just to get him a cup of ice.<br \><br \>There was a lot of competition amongst the soda sales guys. Basically you had to stake a territory.<br \><br \>My mother - known as Chickie - worked at Student Stores and helped me get the job.<br \><br \>Also worked the bar-b-cue stand (with Andy Skakle, Coach Skale&#39;s son) located near Wilson Library before games. Thanks to Bland Simpson for that job.

Bob Ward      12:36 PM Tue 8/31/2010

I was at that game as well. I also remember their band - &quot;The Golden Band from Tiger Land&quot; - which was about the largest marching band that I had ever seen. <br \><br \>LSU&#39;s legendary defense was known as the &quot;Chinese Bandits&quot;. This was in the day of one platoon football meaning most players played both offense and defense and if a player left the game he could not return until the start of the next quarter. However LSU had enough good player that they actually had 3 units. They had what they called the &quot;White team&quot; which played both offense and defense, the &quot;Go team&quot; which only played offense and the &quot;Chinese Bandits&quot; which only played defense.

Brian Jordan      9:54 AM Tue 8/31/2010

I am surprised an eleven year old boy remembers so much about a football game that took place almost 50 years. But then again when I grew up 9 and 10 year old young kids did not work at football games selling drinks. Do you remember how much you made selling drinks at these games?

Adolph Reed      11:05 PM Mon 8/30/2010

Oops! I just checked; it was Johnny Robinson, a DB, from LSU who played a number of years with the Dallas Texans/Kansas City Chiefs. Also in the pros from those teams were Max Fugler, Wendell Harris and Earl Gros.

Adolph Reed      10:56 PM Mon 8/30/2010

Hi Charly,<br \><br \>A small correction about that 1960 LSU team. The defense went by the name Chinese Bandits. They even played a signature riff that evoked Asian music. I remember them well, as they were a real powerhouse during that period, and a number of NFL/AFL stars came off that team -- e.g., Billy Cannon, Jerry Stovall, and I believe Warren Rabb, the QB, played safety in the pros, and Jerry Robinson I think.<br \><br \>In any event, I&#39;m hoping the Heels avenge that loss this season, though I&#39;m still really waiting for basketball season to start to get the bad taste of last year out of my mouth.<br \><br \>Adolph

Bill Noyes      7:31 PM Mon 8/30/2010

UNC should avenge this loss this time. The last I saw UNC was favored to prevail by 11 points over LSU.

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